Monday, August 29, 2011

[Blue Heaven] Paper pattern??? MCQ,s or Subjective

kiya sab log yahan par yeh bataien gay kay V.U kaa ab wala paper patteren acha hay yaa is main kuch changes honi zaroori hain?

Do u like current paper pattern of V.U or it should be changed?for example more subjective should be included

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..::VU-Pink::.. Paper pattern??? MCQ,s or Subjective

kiya sab log yahan par yeh bataien gay kay V.U kaa ab wala paper patteren acha hay yaa is main kuch changes honi zaroori hain?

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~*~νυ ѕтυ∂у мαηια~*~ Paper pattern??? MCQ,s or Subjective

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Re: .::VULMSIT::.eNoxel Dangerous News

Late change is better than no change...



On Tuesday, 30 August 2011 01:43:16 UTC+5, bc080200310 ZAHEER AHMED wrote:


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Shoukat Aajiz <aaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
1 kam krte han rector sb ko hta dete han and umair sb apko unki jage post kr dete han, aur ap wo kro jo apka mn krta ha, Remember one thing dear, always think positive, baqi 1 bat apko bta doon k apki bongian marne se VU k pattern ya exam ya study pattern pe koi asr nai prta, ap apna mukml zor lga len, jo behtr ho ga wo VU wale kr len ge, ap sukh ka sans len, I hop u have got it.

 Shoukat Bhai...i agree with u...yar i appriciate if someone do such sugessions that can improve the examination system...but i dont know k ...Umair sahib ko ab q yaad i jab woh degree complete ker chukay hain...shaid Sir Naveed ne inn ki mail ko value d...to bas janab ho gay tayyyar ooot ptaang suggessions denay...anyhow...agar Umair sahib ne suggessions deni he hain...and really sincerely deni hain...to janab yeah threat denay ki zroorat nahin hai...k g main 1 or mail ker raha hoon etc...kia aap ko mash-hoori ka bohat shaok hai jo roz 1 new mail le k aa jatay hain...bhai aap khamoshi se bhi suggessions de saktay hain...aap ko yeah students ko btanay ki zroorat nahin hai...

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Re: .::VULMSIT::.eNoxel Dangerous News

main nay bongiaan nahin mareen... main nay theek baatain aur valid reasons diay thay sir ko long paper pattern k hawalay se... aur sir nay agree bhi keea tha k main comparison karoon ga results ko long paper pattern aur MCQs k paper pattern se... agar bongiaan mari hoteen tou sir yeh nah kehtay, kia khayal hai?


aur MGT201 wala reason dia tha jo k Spring 2008 mein 70% students fail thay... aik ka bhi A grade nahin tha, ab har koi A grade le raha hota hai... yeh kaisay possible hai ?

yeh bhi bongiaan nahin maari theen...

par aap ko tabhi samajh aaye ga jab aap MCQs k paper pattern se balatar ho kar socho gay

On Monday, 29 August 2011 22:48:31 UTC+5, aajiz malik wrote:
1 kam krte han rector sb ko hta dete han and umair sb apko unki jage post kr dete han, aur ap wo kro jo apka mn krta ha, Remember one thing dear, always think positive, baqi 1 bat apko bta doon k apki bongian marne se VU k pattern ya exam ya study pattern pe koi asr nai prta, ap apna mukml zor lga len, jo behtr ho ga wo VU wale kr len ge, ap sukh ka sans len, I hop u have got it.

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Assalam o Alaikum

dangerous news yeh hai k main rector sab ko aik aur email karnay wala hoon thori der tak... 

umeed hai k aap mein se jo MCQs lovers hain, woh dar gaye hon gay aur kaanp rahay hon gay ......

bilkul aisay ......
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Re: .::VULMSIT::.eNoxel Dangerous News

o bhai, main nay kabhi MCQs se rattay nahin lagaye... kabhi past papers nahin dekhay... is liay tum mujh par ilzaam nahin laga saktay k main nay MCQs ka faida uthaya... main nay hamesha handouts se aur textbooks se study ki...

aur baqi main nay aap ki personal email ka bhi reply keea hai... woh bhi dekh lena...

On Tuesday, 30 August 2011 09:42:20 UTC+5, bc070401548 Rashid Saleem Wains wrote:

mein ne souna tha  ALLAH ramadan mein shaitan ko band kar deta hai lakin insaan ke roop mein satan apna kaam karte rehte hain oyee besharam insaan! tu ass wqat khdar tha jab tu studying ker raha tha? zara ass hadees per gor ker
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..::VU-Pink::.. STA301 and MTH603 - suggestion to rector

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my suggestion about STA301 and MTH603 to rector.

Sir, I was talking to a fellow student and she told me that also give a suggestion to rector about some subjects of MCS. Sir, she told me that many students feel difficulty in STA301 and MTH603 courses. 

Sir, pre-requisites are not taught in VU of these two subjects. For students who are studying in their business study related program e.g. BS-BA, MBA, B.Com. etc. and such students who didn't study calculus before, will face much problem in understanding few topics of STA301 which contain derivatives and integration. Therefore, I think, there should be a course in such study programs too in which basic calculus should be taught.

Now let's come to MTH603 (Numerical Analysis). This is not one subject, rather mixture of subjects. This subject contains almost all other subjects of Mathematics. Calculus, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations are dominant subjects of the course contents of MTH603. Sir, I observed many times that MCS students find this subject very tough and it is because of the fact that its pre-requisites i.e. Calculus, Differential Equations and Linear Algebra and not taught in VU. Sir, to understand how a numerical method for a problem works I think it is much necessary to first understand how that method is applied analytically. Students also need to understand why we are applying numerical method.

I will give you my personal experience too about this fact. When I studied MTH301, I learned most part of the course very well. However, in the very last lecture of this course, there was a topic "Solving Differential Equations with Initial Value Problems using Lalplace Transforms". Sir, I hardly understood this topic and the only reason I inferred after many years is that at that time I didn't even know what actually is a differential equation, what actually is an Initial Value Problem and most important fact due to which I could not understand this topic at that time was that "Laplace Transforms" are part of Differential Equations course and this chapter is usually 6th of 7th chapter in most textbooks around the world i.e. after covering the basic methods of Differential Equations. 

Sir, I want to explain that many MCS students who haven't studied Linear Algebra, Calculus, and Differential Equation will find it almost impossible to get the numerical concepts of most parts of this course. Therefore, I think, this course should be dropped in MCS degree program. There are many other Math subjects that don't have any pre-requisiste and can therefore be added to MCS program without any difficulty. One that is coming in my mind is Linear Algebra. OR, this Numerical Analysis subject can also be replaced by some other CS course that is not in MCS like Computer Graphics, Visual Programming, etc. etc.

I hope you will find my suggestions valueable. 


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Your critical analysis and suggestions about the subjects in the MCS
 scheme of studies are very pertinent and extremely valuable. Thank
 you. I will take up the issue with the Registrar and hopefully update
 the scheme of studies as soon as possible (or introduce more
 pre-requisite courses as deficiency courses).


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~*~νυ ѕтυ∂у мαηια~*~ STA301 and MTH603 - suggestion to rector

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my suggestion about STA301 and MTH603 to rector.

Sir, I was talking to a fellow student and she told me that also give a suggestion to rector about some subjects of MCS. Sir, she told me that many students feel difficulty in STA301 and MTH603 courses. 

Sir, pre-requisites are not taught in VU of these two subjects. For students who are studying in their business study related program e.g. BS-BA, MBA, B.Com. etc. and such students who didn't study calculus before, will face much problem in understanding few topics of STA301 which contain derivatives and integration. Therefore, I think, there should be a course in such study programs too in which basic calculus should be taught.

Now let's come to MTH603 (Numerical Analysis). This is not one subject, rather mixture of subjects. This subject contains almost all other subjects of Mathematics. Calculus, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations are dominant subjects of the course contents of MTH603. Sir, I observed many times that MCS students find this subject very tough and it is because of the fact that its pre-requisites i.e. Calculus, Differential Equations and Linear Algebra and not taught in VU. Sir, to understand how a numerical method for a problem works I think it is much necessary to first understand how that method is applied analytically. Students also need to understand why we are applying numerical method.

I will give you my personal experience too about this fact. When I studied MTH301, I learned most part of the course very well. However, in the very last lecture of this course, there was a topic "Solving Differential Equations with Initial Value Problems using Lalplace Transforms". Sir, I hardly understood this topic and the only reason I inferred after many years is that at that time I didn't even know what actually is a differential equation, what actually is an Initial Value Problem and most important fact due to which I could not understand this topic at that time was that "Laplace Transforms" are part of Differential Equations course and this chapter is usually 6th of 7th chapter in most textbooks around the world i.e. after covering the basic methods of Differential Equations. 

Sir, I want to explain that many MCS students who haven't studied Linear Algebra, Calculus, and Differential Equation will find it almost impossible to get the numerical concepts of most parts of this course. Therefore, I think, this course should be dropped in MCS degree program. There are many other Math subjects that don't have any pre-requisiste and can therefore be added to MCS program without any difficulty. One that is coming in my mind is Linear Algebra. OR, this Numerical Analysis subject can also be replaced by some other CS course that is not in MCS like Computer Graphics, Visual Programming, etc. etc.

I hope you will find my suggestions valueable. 


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Your critical analysis and suggestions about the subjects in the MCS
 scheme of studies are very pertinent and extremely valuable. Thank
 you. I will take up the issue with the Registrar and hopefully update
 the scheme of studies as soon as possible (or introduce more
 pre-requisite courses as deficiency courses).


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[Pak Youth] STA301 and MTH603 - suggestion to rector

Assalam o Alaikum

my suggestion about STA301 and MTH603 to rector.

Sir, I was talking to a fellow student and she told me that also give a suggestion to rector about some subjects of MCS. Sir, she told me that many students feel difficulty in STA301 and MTH603 courses. 

Sir, pre-requisites are not taught in VU of these two subjects. For students who are studying in their business study related program e.g. BS-BA, MBA, B.Com. etc. and such students who didn't study calculus before, will face much problem in understanding few topics of STA301 which contain derivatives and integration. Therefore, I think, there should be a course in such study programs too in which basic calculus should be taught.

Now let's come to MTH603 (Numerical Analysis). This is not one subject, rather mixture of subjects. This subject contains almost all other subjects of Mathematics. Calculus, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations are dominant subjects of the course contents of MTH603. Sir, I observed many times that MCS students find this subject very tough and it is because of the fact that its pre-requisites i.e. Calculus, Differential Equations and Linear Algebra and not taught in VU. Sir, to understand how a numerical method for a problem works I think it is much necessary to first understand how that method is applied analytically. Students also need to understand why we are applying numerical method.

I will give you my personal experience too about this fact. When I studied MTH301, I learned most part of the course very well. However, in the very last lecture of this course, there was a topic "Solving Differential Equations with Initial Value Problems using Lalplace Transforms". Sir, I hardly understood this topic and the only reason I inferred after many years is that at that time I didn't even know what actually is a differential equation, what actually is an Initial Value Problem and most important fact due to which I could not understand this topic at that time was that "Laplace Transforms" are part of Differential Equations course and this chapter is usually 6th of 7th chapter in most textbooks around the world i.e. after covering the basic methods of Differential Equations. 

Sir, I want to explain that many MCS students who haven't studied Linear Algebra, Calculus, and Differential Equation will find it almost impossible to get the numerical concepts of most parts of this course. Therefore, I think, this course should be dropped in MCS degree program. There are many other Math subjects that don't have any pre-requisiste and can therefore be added to MCS program without any difficulty. One that is coming in my mind is Linear Algebra. OR, this Numerical Analysis subject can also be replaced by some other CS course that is not in MCS like Computer Graphics, Visual Programming, etc. etc.

I hope you will find my suggestions valueable. 


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Your critical analysis and suggestions about the subjects in the MCS
 scheme of studies are very pertinent and extremely valuable. Thank
 you. I will take up the issue with the Registrar and hopefully update
 the scheme of studies as soon as possible (or introduce more
 pre-requisite courses as deficiency courses).


I hope most of MCS students will agree with me about these two subjects. 








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.::VULMSIT::.eNoxel STA301 and MTH603 - suggestion to rector

Assalam o Alaikum

my suggestion about STA301 and MTH603 to rector.

Sir, I was talking to a fellow student and she told me that also give a suggestion to rector about some subjects of MCS. Sir, she told me that many students feel difficulty in STA301 and MTH603 courses. 

Sir, pre-requisites are not taught in VU of these two subjects. For students who are studying in their business study related program e.g. BS-BA, MBA, B.Com. etc. and such students who didn't study calculus before, will face much problem in understanding few topics of STA301 which contain derivatives and integration. Therefore, I think, there should be a course in such study programs too in which basic calculus should be taught.

Now let's come to MTH603 (Numerical Analysis). This is not one subject, rather mixture of subjects. This subject contains almost all other subjects of Mathematics. Calculus, Linear Algebra and Differential Equations are dominant subjects of the course contents of MTH603. Sir, I observed many times that MCS students find this subject very tough and it is because of the fact that its pre-requisites i.e. Calculus, Differential Equations and Linear Algebra and not taught in VU. Sir, to understand how a numerical method for a problem works I think it is much necessary to first understand how that method is applied analytically. Students also need to understand why we are applying numerical method.

I will give you my personal experience too about this fact. When I studied MTH301, I learned most part of the course very well. However, in the very last lecture of this course, there was a topic "Solving Differential Equations with Initial Value Problems using Lalplace Transforms". Sir, I hardly understood this topic and the only reason I inferred after many years is that at that time I didn't even know what actually is a differential equation, what actually is an Initial Value Problem and most important fact due to which I could not understand this topic at that time was that "Laplace Transforms" are part of Differential Equations course and this chapter is usually 6th of 7th chapter in most textbooks around the world i.e. after covering the basic methods of Differential Equations. 

Sir, I want to explain that many MCS students who haven't studied Linear Algebra, Calculus, and Differential Equation will find it almost impossible to get the numerical concepts of most parts of this course. Therefore, I think, this course should be dropped in MCS degree program. There are many other Math subjects that don't have any pre-requisiste and can therefore be added to MCS program without any difficulty. One that is coming in my mind is Linear Algebra. OR, this Numerical Analysis subject can also be replaced by some other CS course that is not in MCS like Computer Graphics, Visual Programming, etc. etc.

I hope you will find my suggestions valueable. 


and he replied as follows:

Your critical analysis and suggestions about the subjects in the MCS
 scheme of studies are very pertinent and extremely valuable. Thank
 you. I will take up the issue with the Registrar and hopefully update
 the scheme of studies as soon as possible (or introduce more
 pre-requisite courses as deficiency courses).


I hope most of MCS students will agree with me about these two subjects. 








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